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Found this video demonstrating some degenerate L4D tactics. This isn’t Shiva spam, but it gives a good taste of the annoying non-fun entailed in Shiva. The only time the Survivors are even at risk in this whole video is towards the end, and the players are so incompetent that they can’t even handle 10 seconds of vulnerability without getting smoked.

For those who don’t get the point here : The extreme power of Survivors in close quarters, and the extreme weakness of the Infected in close quarters is a real problem for this game, and the fun intensity of the game can be completely lost with too much closet camping. I really hope Valve does something about it, instead of continually screwing around with other aspects of the game (changing maps, adjusting the Tank) that don’t address the real problem.

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